Si enim ita est, vide ne facinus facias, cum mori suadeas. Scientiam pollicentur, quam non erat mirum sapientiae cupido patria esse cariorem. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus. Haec dicuntur fortasse ieiunius; Ita enim se Athenis collocavit, ut sit paene unus ex Atticis, ut id etiam cognomen videatur habiturus. Vadem te ad mortem tyranno dabis pro amico, ut Pythagoreus ille Siculo fecit tyranno? At quicum ioca seria, ut dicitur, quicum arcana, quicum occulta omnia?

Nec vero sum nescius esse utilitatem in historia, non modo voluptatem. Obsecro, inquit, Torquate, haec dicit Epicurus? Dolere malum est: in crucem qui agitur, beatus esse non potest. Cum id fugiunt, re eadem defendunt, quae Peripatetici, verba.

An potest, inquit ille, quicquam esse suavius quam nihil dolere? Si stante, hoc natura videlicet vult, salvam esse se, quod concedimus; Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi; In his igitur partibus duabus nihil erat, quod Zeno commutare gestiret. Ex quo intellegitur officium medium quiddam esse, quod neque in bonis ponatur neque in contrariis. Nam si beatus umquam fuisset, beatam vitam usque ad illum a Cyro extructum rogum pertulisset. Semper enim ex eo, quod maximas partes continet latissimeque funditur, tota res appellatur.

Quamquam te quidem video minime esse deterritum. Illi enim inter se dissentiunt. Nam de isto magna dissensio est.

Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Innumerabilia dici possunt in hanc sententiam, sed non necesse est. Plane idem, inquit, et maxima quidem, qua fieri nulla maior potest. Cum id fugiunt, re eadem defendunt, quae Peripatetici, verba. Tu vero, inquam, ducas licet, si sequetur;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ergo hoc quidem apparet, nos ad agendum esse natos. Ergo id est convenienter naturae vivere, a natura discedere. Ergo ita: non posse honeste vivi,

nisi honeste vivatur? Praeclare enim Plato: Beatum, cui etiam in senectute contigerit, ut sapientiam verasque opiniones assequi possit. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Si longus, levis;

Quando enim Socrates, qui parens philosophiae iure dici potest, quicquam tale fecit? An tu me de L. Quae quidem sapientes sequuntur duce natura tamquam videntes; Quamquam tu hanc copiosiorem etiam soles dicere. Intellegi quidem, ut propter aliam quampiam rem, verbi gratia propter voluptatem, nos amemus; Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Ita fit beatae vitae domina fortuna, quam Epicurus ait exiguam intervenire sapienti. A primo, ut opinor, animantium ortu petitur origo summi boni. Nihil minus, contraque illa hereditate dives ob eamque rem laetus.

Quid enim ab antiquis ex eo genere, quod ad disserendum valet, praetermissum est? Tollitur beneficium, tollitur gratia, quae sunt vincla concordiae. Unum nescio, quo modo possit, si luxuriosus sit, finitas cupiditates habere.

Si qua in iis corrigere voluit, deteriora fecit. Sit enim idem caecus, debilis. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Nulla erit controversia. Hanc in motu voluptatem -sic enim has suaves et quasi dulces voluptates appellat-interdum ita extenuat, ut M. Pugnant Stoici cum Peripateticis. Si stante, hoc natura videlicet vult, salvam esse se, quod concedimus; De quibus cupio scire quid sentias. Philosophi autem in suis lectulis plerumque moriuntur. Vitiosum est enim in dividendo partem in genere numerare. Quod autem ratione actum est, id officium appellamus. Avaritiamne minuis?

Nunc vides, quid faciat. Nam illud vehementer repugnat, eundem beatum esse et multis malis oppressum.

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