Cur fortior sit, si illud, quod tute concedis, asperum et vix ferendum putabit? Scaevola tribunus plebis ferret ad plebem vellentne de ea re quaeri. Sed fac ista esse non inportuna; Nobis aliter videtur, recte secusne, postea; Sed quae tandem ista ratio est? Mihi quidem Antiochum, quem audis, satis belle videris attendere. Quod dicit Epicurus etiam de voluptate, quae minime sint voluptates, eas obscurari saepe et obrui. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Quod eo liquidius faciet, si perspexerit rerum inter eas verborumne sit controversia. Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ad eas enim res ab Epicuro praecepta dantur. Legimus tamen Diogenem, Antipatrum, Mnesarchum, Panaetium, multos alios in primisque familiarem nostrum Posidonium. Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Utram tandem linguam nescio? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quod cum dixissent, ille contra. Indicant pueri, in quibus ut in speculis natura cernitur. Ita ceterorum sententiis semotis relinquitur non mihi cum Torquato, sed virtuti cum voluptate certatio.

Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Princeps huius civitatis Phalereus Demetrius cum patria pulsus esset iniuria, ad Ptolomaeum se regem Alexandream contulit. Mihi, inquam, qui te id ipsum rogavi?

Age sane, inquam. Non minor, inquit, voluptas percipitur ex vilissimis rebus quam ex pretiosissimis. Dic in quovis conventu te omnia facere, ne doleas. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Aut unde est hoc contritum vetustate proverbium: quicum in tenebris? Bonum negas esse divitias, praeposìtum esse dicis? Traditur, inquit, ab Epicuro ratio neglegendi doloris. Et quidem illud ipsum non nimium probo et tantum patior, philosophum loqui de cupiditatibus finiendis. Sed nimis multa. Quis enim est, qui non videat haec esse in

natura rerum tria? Non quaero, quid dicat, sed quid convenienter possit rationi et sententiae suae dicere. Idem fecisset Epicurus, si sententiam hanc, quae nunc Hieronymi est, coniunxisset cum Aristippi vetere sententia.

Qui autem esse poteris, nisi te amor ipse ceperit? Ad eos igitur converte te, quaeso. Quid est, quod ab ea absolvi et perfici debeat? Cupiditates non Epicuri divisione finiebat, sed sua satietate.

Illa tamen simplicia, vestra versuta. Quodsi vultum tibi, si incessum fingeres, quo gravior viderere, non esses tui similis; Unum est sine dolore esse, alterum cum voluptate. Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto.

Illa argumenta propria videamus, cur omnia sint paria peccata. Sed haec quidem liberius ab eo dicuntur et saepius. Sed quid minus probandum quam esse aliquem beatum nec satis beatum? Tum Triarius: Posthac quidem, inquit, audacius. Verum audiamus. Ab hoc autem quaedam non melius quam veteres, quaedam omnino relicta. Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Est enim effectrix multarum et magnarum voluptatum. Et ais, si una littera commota sit, fore tota ut labet disciplina.

Tum mihi Piso: Quid ergo? Iam id ipsum absurdum, maximum malum neglegi. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn.

Non enim iam stirpis bonum quaeret, sed animalis. Eodem modo is enim tibi nemo dabit, quod, expetendum sit, id esse laudabile. An eiusdem modi? Huius, Lyco, oratione locuples, rebus ipsis ielunior. Polemoni et iam ante Aristoteli ea prima visa sunt, quae paulo ante dixi. Murenam te accusante defenderem. In qua quid est boni praeter summam voluptatem, et eam sempiternam? Dat enim intervalla et relaxat.

Ergo ita: non posse honeste vivi, nisi honeste vivatur? Nemo igitur esse beatus potest. Tum ille timide vel potius verecunde: Facio, inquit. Ratio quidem vestra sic

cogit. Illa videamus, quae a te de amicitia dicta sunt. Haec bene dicuntur, nec ego repugno, sed inter sese ipsa pugnant. Sed tamen enitar et, si minus multa mihi occurrent, non fugiam ista popularia.

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