Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt; Cupit enim dícere nihil posse ad beatam vitam deesse sapienti. Nos vero, inquit ille; O magnam vim ingenii causamque iustam, cur nova existeret disciplina! Perge porro. Te enim iudicem aequum puto, modo quae dicat ille bene noris.

Primum in nostrane potestate est, quid meminerimus? Ut placet, inquit, etsi enim illud erat aptius, aequum cuique concedere. Eam tum adesse, cum dolor omnis absit; Nam et complectitur verbis, quod vult, et dicit plane, quod intellegam; Igitur neque stultorum quisquam beatus neque sapientium non beatus. Suo genere perveniant ad extremum; Bork Minime id quidem, inquam, alienum, multumque ad ea, quae quaerimus, explicatio tua ista profecerit. Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Bork Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur.

Cur iustitia laudatur? Ita ceterorum sententiis semotis relinquitur non mihi cum Torquato, sed virtuti cum voluptate certatio. Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Habent enim et bene longam et satis litigiosam disputationem. Sed nonne merninisti licere mihi ista probare, quae sunt a te dicta? Cur igitur, inquam, res tam dissimiles eodem nomine appellas? Nam quibus rebus efficiuntur voluptates, eae non sunt in potestate sapientis. Atque hoc loco similitudines eas, quibus illi uti solent, dissimillimas proferebas. Cur fortior sit, si illud, quod tute concedis, asperum et vix ferendum putabit? Nam si beatus umquam fuisset, beatam vitam usque ad illum a Cyro extructum rogum pertulisset. At enim, qua in vita est aliquid mali, ea beata esse non potest.

Dolor ergo, id est summum malum, metuetur semper, etiamsi non aderit; Cum id fugiunt, re eadem defendunt, quae Peripatetici, verba. Quicquid porro animo cernimus, id omne oritur a sensibus; Hanc quoque iucunditatem, si vis, transfer in animum;

An est aliquid, quod

te sua sponte delectet? Traditur, inquit, ab Epicuro ratio neglegendi doloris. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Expressa vero in iis aetatibus, quae iam confirmatae sunt. Sin tantum modo ad indicia veteris memoriae cognoscenda, curiosorum. Sed haec ab Antiocho, familiari nostro, dicuntur multo melius et fortius, quam a Stasea dicebantur.

Quem si tenueris, non modo meum Ciceronem, sed etiam me ipsum abducas licebit. Quis contra in illa aetate pudorem, constantiam, etiamsi sua nihil intersit, non tamen diligat? Nam et complectitur verbis, quod vult, et dicit plane, quod intellegam; Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto. Quid, quod homines infima fortuna, nulla spe rerum gerendarum, opifices denique delectantur historia? Quis, quaeso, illum negat et bonum virum et comem et humanum fuisse? Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; At hoc in eo M. Duo Reges: constructio interrete.

Duarum enim vitarum nobis erunt instituta capienda. Est igitur officium eius generis, quod nec in bonis ponatur nec in contrariis. Esse enim, nisi eris, non potes. Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet.

Quo modo autem philosophus loquitur? Videsne quam sit magna dissensio? An ea, quae per vinitorem antea consequebatur, per se ipsa curabit? An eum discere ea mavis, quae cum plane perdidiceriti nihil sciat? An est aliquid per se ipsum flagitiosum, etiamsi nulla comitetur infamia? Quid enim mihi potest esse optatius quam cum Catone, omnium virtutum auctore, de virtutibus disputare?

Haec igitur Epicuri non probo, inquam. Theophrastum tamen adhibeamus ad pleraque, dum modo plus in virtute teneamus, quam ille tenuit, firmitatis et roboris. Istic sum, inquit. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas

disciplinas habemus; Collatio igitur ista te nihil iuvat.

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